Band geek and band nerd are a high school and college subculture terms utilized primarily in the United States to describe students who are heavily involved in marching bands and/or concert bands.The term can also be used as a blanket term for any student in middle or high school who plays an instrument and is in a band class, including students in the orchestra, or even those who play an instrument outside of school, assuming it's an instrument typically found in a concert band or orchestra.Orch dork is a variation of this term that is applied specifically to members of school orchestras.Band geek also gives most band kids a sense of pride. Knowing how hard that they have worked to achieve what thay have done. It takes a lot of skill, patience, and practice to become a musician.------------------------Band geek culture develops around the students' schedule of rehearsals, performances, and competitions. Band geeks can also participate in other groups like jazz band, winter drumline, and winterguard. Additionally, due to the amount of time spent together, members of color guard have also been subsumed into the "band geek" group, although more specific terms, such as "flag nerd" "flagget" or "sabre geek" also exist. The term Band Nerd, which was at one time correct, can be used as a thing to enrage and/or egg on said "band geeks."---------While a great deal of band students can be, not all students who participate in band are band geeks. The term "Band Geek" is generally reserved to denote a stereotypical member of a band that is particularly heavily involved in it. Generally this entails usually, but not always, having been in the band for a fairly large amount of time (usually more than one year). It may also reference anyone who exclusively or primarily associates with other members of the band programs available. It may also refer to exceptionally avid students who are involved in multiple band programs.